Topics
Series
Leadership Interview
Most Popular Posts
Alltop - Best of the Best
 

Friday is for Friends & One (Self-Centered) Former Friend Named Al

Friday November 7, 2008   ~   11 Comments

noc08.pngWell, when this is posted I will be in sunny San Diego at the National Outreach Convention. The annual convention is the largest gathering in the country for the purpose of outreach every year. I have been for the last several years and am glad to be back again.

Let me share some good things about some friends today... and then one bad thing about a very self-centered "Christian" leader, Al.

First, the good friends...

My schedule starts early with a church planting session at 7a.m. (Since that is 9a.m. my time it does not seem so early.) It will be a dialogue time with those interested in "Church Multiplication -- Planting & Daughtering New Churches." We meet in the Town and Country Boardroom.

dan_kimball.jpgAfter that I have a few meetings. One of them is with my friend Dan Kimball, who gives me hair advice. We have called our meeting here the "annual Kimball / Stetzer NOC meeting." I am hoping to get more info about their not-so-secret new emerging church network that is explicitly evangelical and intentionally missional. More on that later, I think. I will also ask Dan why he does not follow me on Twitter. I used to follow him, but I stopped because he was not reciprocating. Just sayin'.

I also will get a chance to hang with Greg Ligon, publishing guru of Leadership Network where I hope I will be offered a huge book contract to take back to LifeWay and B&H Publishing. Now, I would not sign with any publisher other than the one that has a book at #1 on the NY Times bestseller list (Love Dare) but I can use it as leverage for future negotiations. Think big, Greg, really big, because you won't have to pay it.

Now, the main reason I am going is my workshop. It is a "featured" workshop which means, "we want you to come to the conference but not be a keynote speaker so will this be enough?" It appears that I and several others got listed in that catagory, though I would come just because it is such a great conference. For that matter, I think the some of the "non-featured" workshps look better than mine. (But, you should come to mine anyway.)

My workshop is from 1-2pm and it is called, "Learning & Discerning from the 100 Fastest Growing Churches" in the Town & Country Golden Room. I will be presenting some information about the churches on the fastest growing church list. It will be practical and include some practical takeaways. Now, if you are an angry Calvinist recently graduated from seminary with grave concerns about, well, growing churches, then this seminar is not for you. (However, happy Calvinists are welcome.) Since this is right after lunch, it may be 5 people and me, but we will see. I will probably post my notes later here at the blog.

Finally, Ron Forseth and I will hang out. Ron is a friend and has been for a while. I am a hotel guy, but I have actually spent the night at Ron's house. I can only say that for about 3 people. Ron is the King of all things Sermon Central. I have written about them before in what become a much debated post about plagiarism. Anyway, we are doing some preaching research in partnership with them and we will talk about that and catch up a bit.

And, lastly, there is a book signing. Book signings are very lonely when you are a D list celebrity like me, so please come by the Atlas lobby at 2:30pm and ask me to sign a book.

In between meetings, I will walk around a bit and lament the fact that all the world does not have San Diego's weather.

Then the former friend...

It appears that my simmering conflict with Al has now gone public. The video is below. I am not quite sure what to say, but I think it points out just how confused the missional conversation has become. Seems like everyone wants to be missional but what when they say "missional" they really mean "edgy," "innovative," or "contemporary."

But, Al wants to take ownership of the word. He thinks there is no mission without him.

This is not the first time that has happened. I have seen several key missional leaders get offended at how others use the word and Al seems to be one of them. But, I think I there are important issues here and you will see the dialogue played out over several episodes. If seeing my misery makes you happy, feel free to post on your site as well.

Many people asked who Al was when I twittered about his misunderstanding of missional, his ego, and his attitude. Actually, many suggested who he might be. Now, the truth must be told...watch here for the first of three episodes:

You can also embed the widget on the right sidebar that will stream all the videos.

This could get ugly.

Posted on November 7, 2008 at 6:19 AM   ~   11 Comments

Tagged with: conference, friends, missional, outreach

11 Comments

I think now is high time for a story about mission's ex-wife, "S".

So does this mean if a church succeeds on God's mission that its community could be called missionED? Will Ed then want a piece of the action?

Funny stuff.

And what about mission's British cousin, 'ary?

That was very creative Ed. Well done.

Cameron,

Then my name would be a suffix!

I must confess, I did not think of the "S" and "Ary." That is pretty funny!

Ed

Ed,
I will no longer be the value meal cheeseburger on your dinner menu of notoriety. I'm a confident suffix that knows my services will be valued elsewhere. I'm moving on. If you like, you can find me on Twitter. If not...well, that's fine too.

Have a nice life with mission. He's a decent fellow. We had a good thing while it lasted.

Oh for heaven's sake Ed. Give the poor guy a few bucks and tell him to get lost. I know he's unemployed (they canceled "The Shield," right?), and he's unwelcome in most churches, but he's killin' your mojo, man. Send him back to the firehouse.

Ed,
Good stuff. Very funny. I can sympathize with you.

Some of the same conflict and aggravation that you get from Al, is some of the same reason why I quit blogging on Al... and what he looked like in practice.

Too many people made Al into another model of how to do church... instead of a way of life and have made it WAY too complicated.

Look forward to seeing the rest of the videos.

Now we got to take on Incarnation-al :-)

Gosh this is unfortunate, as my blog is http://justamissional.blogspot.com..
But not claiming ownership.. Honest! :P

Good to see Al Hirsch and Alan... some people named Al understand the mission!

Leave a comment

» Subscribe to these comments.
 
Recent Comments
Twitter Feed
    My Books
    Compelled by Love Comeback Churches   Breaking the missional Code
    Planting Missional Churches 11 Innocations in the Local Church   Spiritual Warfare and Missions
    Mission Shift Lost and Found   Viral Churches
    Small Group Resources

    Install Flash

    Get Adobe Flash player

    Schools Where I Teach
    Compelled by Love
    Ministry Partnerships
    Christianity Today Outreach magazine
    Catalyst Monthly Facts and Trends
    Christian Post
    imb connecting Baptist Center
    LifeWay: Research - Biblical Solutions for Life
    LifeWay: Biblical Solutions for Life
    Noteworthy Items
    Noteworthy Items