HomeArchivesSpeakingAudio / Video The ExchangeLifeWay ResearchLifeWay Research Team
Home
Home
FacebookRSSTwitterVimeoYouTube
Click here to have Ed's RSS feed on your site
Topics
  • Articles
  • Bible
  • Blog
  • Books
  • Church
  • Church Planting
  • Church Revitalization
  • Culture
  • Humor
  • International Missions
  • Interviews
  • Leaders
  • Lifeway
  • Megachurch
  • Ministry
  • Missional
  • Multisite
  • Personal
  • Politics
  • Preaching
  • Presentations
  • Research
  • SBC
  • Seminars
  • Social Media
  • Teaching
  • Theology
  • Video
  • Web
Series
  • Guide to the Blog
  • The Meanings of Missional (5 Parts)
  • Multi-site Churches
  • Young Adult Dropouts
  • Calvinism and the SBC
Leadership Interview
  • Thom and Sam Rainer: Essential Church
  • Brad Waggoner: The Shape Of Faith To Come
  • Jared Wilson: Your Jesus is Too Safe
  • Tullian Tchividjian: Unfashionable
  • Skye Jethani: The Divine Commodity
  • Mark Liederbach & Alvin L. Reid: The Convergent Church
  • Scott McConnell: Multi-Site Churches w/ Scott McConnell
  • Steve Ogne & Tim Roeh: TransforMissional Coaching
  • Alan Hirsch & Michael Frost: ReJesus
  • Kary Oberbrunner: The Fine Line
  • Steve Addison: Movements That Change The World
  • John Avant: If God Were Real
  • Geoff Surratt: Ten Stupid Things That Keep Churches from Growing
Most Popular Posts
  • Missional Weddings?
  • Book Interview: Ten Stupid Things That Keep Churches from Growing
  • Leadership Book Interview: The Strategically Small Church by Brandon O'Brien
  • When Missional Churches Will Multiply
  • My Interview with Adrian Warnock: Why We Need Non-Paid Christian Leaders
  • Thursday is for Thinkers: Rice Broocks on The Evangelist and the Missional Church
  • The Exchange All Day: Transformational Small Churches
  • Thursday is for Thinkers: Jason Hayes on Mentoring
  • Down Time at Glorieta
  • SBC 2008 Monday
Alltop - Best of the Best
 

Interview with Trevin Wax

Tuesday April 21, 2009   ~   6 Comments
lostfound_banner.png

Trevin Wax recently interviewed me for his blog, Kingdom People. We talked about our new book, Lost and Found, and the issues facing our churches and the unchurched younger generations. Here's how it went down.

Trevin Wax: Did you encounter any surprises as you sifted through the data as you were researching this book?

Ed Stetzer: Yes. Not only did we see some surprises, but also we actually were really encouraged by these findings. It would have been unfortunate had the younger unchurched expressed interest in things that we simply couldn't offer.

But much of what the younger unchurched are looking for is found in the character of God and what our churches are called to be. Note that I said what our churches are called to be, not necessarily what they are.

Our churches have an opportunity to connect, however that doesn't necessarily mean they are doing it. One of the great aspects of this book is that we share the approaches of many of the churches that are finding success.

As for what is most surprising in our research, that's tough. I think what seems to be surprising most of our readers so far is the overall receptivity of the younger unchurched to Christianity, not just general spirituality.

Consider a stat like, "89% of non-church-going young adults said they would be willing to listen if someone wanted to tell them about Christianity." Our research really accentuates this interest, even to the point of their willingness to participate in Bible study if asked. This is some surprising to some and should be exciting for us all.

Trevin Wax: You write that a sense of community and belonging is important to the younger unchurched. What are some ways that evangelicals have dropped the ball when it comes to fostering genuine community in the past? And where do you recommend we go from here?

Ed Stetzer: The church has, for generations, spoken of community. However, most of us would agree that community has been an aspiration rather than an expressed value. We have "aspired" to build community, but it has scarcely been realized. And that has not gone unnoticed by young adults, both inside and outside the church.

I believe we are often guilty of focusing more on the programs that we've established to foster community rather than the people within them. It's not that our churches and their leaders set out to miss the mark on community. In fact, it is usually good people with positive intentions who have simply lost focus on what's most important.

In the book, we lay out some key elements to what community needs to look like for this generation. These things include authenticity, transparency, a connection to personal conviction, an openness to ask questions, and much, much more.

Trevin Wax: You write that the younger unchurched are attracted to depth of content. They don't want to wade around in the shallow end of the pool. What are some ways that churches can provide this kind of depth?

Ed Stetzer: Very simply, we heard the younger churched tell us that if they were going to stand for Truth in a world that isn't, then they need to be equipped. For those that were unchurched, they told us that if they were to ever make a commitment for Christ, it would be an informed, educated decision.

When we consider both of these perspectives, it's absolutely essential that our churches are providing in-depth Bible teaching as well as an emphasis on apologetics, worldview, and even other religions. But it's not just about giving more information either. Instead, young adults told us that he opportunity to wrestle with this information was extremely important.

For some, the process was even more important than the answers. These insights help us establish what our teaching should look like in small group Bible study and in our preaching.

Trevin Wax: You write that serious conversations with the younger unchurched must address issues of gender and sexuality. Yet polls also show that the overwhelming majority reacts negatively to the church's stance on homosexuality. How can churches remain faithful to the Scriptural teaching on homosexuality and yet still reach the younger unchurched?

Ed Stetzer: It is essential that we as Christ followers teach Truth in a loving, gracious manner manner. With that said, we'll never reach this generation for Christ with the true gospel if, in the process of "reaching them," we move away from biblical truth.

This isn't an either/or situation. We can and should do both. We're not suggesting that churches compromise on scriptural teachings. We do, however, need to have an accurate understanding of exactly who were are hoping to reach. Churches wanting to connect with this generation need to be informed and prepared.

Trevin Wax: How should churches respond to the recent development of missions/ministry becoming an entry for the younger generation?

Ed Stetzer: This generation is continuing to show their desire to be a part of something bigger than themselves, a cause. It is our responsibility to affirm the church as an outlet where they cannot only find opportunities to serve the world, but even find a greater reason behind doing it.

The social action movement shouldn't intimidate the church. We don't need to be looking for ways to retrofit our message into it. Instead, we simply need to help others see that it is our message.

Jesus shows us in Luke 19 that he came to seek and to save the lost. But, we also see that very same Jesus in Luke 4 who is serving the hurting and the oppressed. If we are going to join Jesus on his mission, he modeled both "serve" and "save," and we would do well to follow his example.

It's important that we, as believers, are choosing to do both also. We also speak of how many churches are not only serving the lost and hurting, but also serving alongside them in an effort to build relationships. These are interesting findings that we discuss at length in the book.

Posted on April 21, 2009 at 10:22 PM   ~   6 Comments

Tagged with: interview, wax, younger

Subscribe via RSS or Follow us on Twitter
Follow us via RSS Follow us On Twitter

Share This Post
Facebook
del.icio.us
StumbleUpon
Digg
TwitThis
Mixx
Technorati
NewsVine
Reddit
Google
LinkedIn
co.mments
YahooMyWeb

6 Comments

By Alex Penduck on April 22, 2009 1:13 PM

Some good conversation here Ed. I think the younger generation are looking for things that are authentic and genuine. I think they view the church as past it and think they do not need it. However, if they see the real church, the one God intended they would want to be part of it.

By Mary Jo Sharp on April 22, 2009 11:31 PM

"...it's absolutely essential that our churches are providing in-depth Bible teaching as well as an emphasis on apologetics, worldview, and even other religions. But it's not just about giving more information either. Instead, young adults told us that he opportunity to wrestle with this information was extremely important."

YES! Thanks, Ed!

By John Alexander on April 23, 2009 10:55 AM

RE: Gay rights, Alan Cross addressed this on his blog following a trip to San Francisco.

http://www.downshoredrift.com/downshoredrift/2009/03/why-do-baptists-avoid-san-francisco-new-orleans-new-york-city-etc-.html

Another post on his blog:

http://www.downshoredrift.com/downshoredrift/2009/04/is-gay-marriage-in-the-us-unavoidable.html

As I commented on Alan's first post, our past has caught us, and we'll pay dearly trying to regain what we lost in the 1950's and 1960's.

Most youth today don't want to wade into combat on social issues; the youth I encounter on campuses here in Tuscaloosa are repulsed by the standard means by which most churches historically present our arguments. We'll have to approach the issues positively, stating what we support and why we support it, to gain an audience with this generation.

I find another quote fascinating: "For those that were unchurched, they told us that if they were to ever make a commitment for Christ, it would be an informed, educated decision." Does this mean that this generation is rejecting the emotional appeal of the standard Baptist altar call? I sincerely hope so. I've come to realize that a decision that affects eternity shouldn't rely on the emotions of a moment.

By Dan on April 23, 2009 12:03 PM

Question: Did you find a difference among urban and rural context? Do the younger generally more churched younger people in a rural context want the same things?

By Ed StetzerAuthor Profile Page on April 23, 2009 3:41 PM

Dan,

Yes, we looked at the difference but did not find much variance between rural and urban.

Ed

By Michael on April 23, 2009 5:42 PM

After reading your article and including the link to the decline from Baptist to Methodist I'm not surprised with the numbers. However, with the information freeway of anyone who wants to attend church via the living room on Sunday and never have to get out of their boxer shorts has changed the viewing method. Your point of the transistion between churchs and farmers is well taken, and being a retired corporate farmer over the years I have seen the small community churches become warehouses to mice and not members. Anymore I feel that churches have become corporations and worry about the big top shows and have forgotten the grass roots which is the cutting edge of community evoluation. In a breath, I don't feel that people are less attached, but more disattached. In short, the tide has turned...hope the good guys win. Michael - 7

Comment Policy

Comments are welcome on discussion posts.  Comments are not moderated but do require a keyword to avoid spam.  If this is your first time commenting, please review the comment policy.

Leave a comment

» Subscribe to these comments.
 
Recent Comments
  • Michael commented on Interview with Trevin Wax.
  • Ed Stetzer commented on Interview with Trevin Wax.
  • Dan commented on Interview with Trevin Wax.
  • John Alexander commented on Interview with Trevin Wax.
  • Mary Jo Sharp commented on Interview with Trevin Wax.
  • Alex Penduck commented on Interview with Trevin Wax.
Twitter Feed
    My Books
    Compelled by Love Comeback Churches   Breaking the missional Code
    Planting Missional Churches 11 Innocations in the Local Church   Spiritual Warfare and Missions
    Mission Shift Lost and Found   Viral Churches
    Small Group Resources

    Install Flash

    Get Adobe Flash player

    Schools Where I Teach
    Compelled by Love
    Ministry Partnerships
    Christianity Today Outreach magazine
    Catalyst Monthly Facts and Trends
    Christian Post
    imb connecting Baptist Center
    LifeWay: Research - Biblical Solutions for Life
    LifeWay: Biblical Solutions for Life
    Noteworthy Items
    Noteworthy Items
    • The Awesomeness-Driven Church
    • Bill Hybels on Leadership Fundamentals
    • When Preaching, Don’t Assume People Care What You’re Saying
    • A Good Word on Technology and Information
    • Two Christian Families in Bangladesh Suffer Extortion, Beatings
    • When sex offenders go to church
    • The Nature of Conversion, Then and Now
    • Ed Stetzer interviews me on unpaid Christian leadership