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Teaching at Saddleback

Wednesday February 24, 2010   ~   5 Comments

I had a great time at Saddleback last week, and not just because it's in California. Where it was sunny. And warm. And very sunny!

As is my custom, I like to blog a bit about the service. First thanks to Rick Warren for inviting me to preach in the weekend services. I think there were 22 services where I spoke (that's not a typo-- it's twenty-two), though I only preached 4 times. You can see the video of that service here. (By the way, if you would like to hear about how Thom Rainer and I used to "despise" each other, you will want to watch the message.)

One of the things you notice about Saddleback is just how open it is. Everything is glass or open air. It fits their context. It screams Southern California.

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Their baptistry is right outside the church-- and there were baptisms after every service.

Several of their venues are outisde. In other words, people sit outside, sing, and watch the message via live video. (Donna went to church on the terrace sipping a latte.)

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From the moment you come in, people welcome you. Your hand "gets shook" a lot and you believe these people are genuinely happy to see you. It is a remarkably well planned and friendly place.

Of course, I tend to notice different things than most people. For example, what happened after I preached on Saturday night was fascinating.

First, someone transcribed my message-- instantly and accurately. This was then given to one of the pastors who then preached my message (live) Sunday night. I came by and listened to him do so, and he basically preached my outline and made it his own.

Also, based on that transcript alone, a group of volunteers produced a study guide based on my sermon for use in small groups. You can download the study guide here. Below is an excerpt from the guide.

3. FORGIVE FOR ITS OWN REWARD.

In Luke 6:35 we are told to love our enemies and to do good. Why?

- What is the reward you receive when you forgive?
- Why do you think there are people who are unwilling or unable to receive this reward?

What is the relationship between love and forgiveness, according to Luke 7:47.

- Why did Jesus forgive the woman's sins?

In Genesis 50:19, we find Joseph forgiving his brothers for abandoning him years before. What did he say about how God worked in their treachery? What did this enable Joseph to do?

Ministry - When we help others in the family of Christ we all grow together. We've all met members of our Christian family who are bitter because they have been unable to forgive. How can we care for those individuals? Discuss ideas for ministry you can do individually and as a group. Decide whether you would like to help someone individually or as a group, and share some strategy thoughts.

4. FORGIVE THOSE WHO DON'T DESERVE IT.

How many times are we supposed to forgive someone who has wronged us, according to Luke 17:3-5?

What point do you think Jesus was making in this scripture?
How is a person's faith increased?

Mission - In order to relate Jesus to others, we need to have his heart. How does unforgiveness block our capacity to love? Is there an area in your life that needs forgiveness? How would applying this forgiveness help you fulfill your mission in life? Pray for the Lord to reveal to you areas that need your attention.

Take a moment to review any assignments/challenges made during the personal application and commitment section of your previous meeting. Seeing God at work in the lives of those who commit to Him is essential for growth.

I have been watching Saddleback reach the lost and grow believers for years. It was an honor to preach the word to my brothers and sisters there.

Posted on February 24, 2010 at 6:19 PM   ~   5 Comments

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5 Comments

By Josh Rahn on February 25, 2010 1:07 AM

Wow, that's awesome Ed! Love what God is doing (and has been) at Saddleback. I enjoyed listening to you speak when you came to a conference at Radiant ( 1 1/2 yrs ago?) in Surprise, AZ. Glad you got to speak @ Saddleback. Great stuff :-)

By BobS on February 25, 2010 6:02 AM

Is the sermon transcript available?

By Michael on February 25, 2010 6:39 AM

Ed, I'm sure you suffered through the weather. :)

Just curious, have you ever had that happen before? Having someone transcribe your message you had labored and prayed over and then repreached in a short window and watch it live?

I've seen youth pastors deliver a message basically ripped from one of my books and I was both humbled and uncomfortable at the same time.

For that to happen in the same day...I think it would be a little surreal at best.

Just wondering.

By Ed StetzerAuthor Profile Page on February 25, 2010 7:36 AM

Bob,

I have the transcript but it is not in the type format for publishing. So, no, it's not available.

Michael, it was very different. I think he got the transcript Saturday night and preached in Sunday night.

Ed

By Robin Dugall on February 25, 2010 2:35 PM

Ed - I've never emailed you or posted on your blog though I must say that I love what God is doing in and through you as you are "used" by the Spirit in as apostolic leader. I don't see that too often in Western Christianity..you definitely have that gift! Anyway, I read your blog daily...have quoted you and copied articles you have written to pass on to the people I "disciple" in the missional project that I facilitate. I only have one thing to share about Saddleback...I have watched Saddleback, been at training sessions there as well as pastored a church in their "OC" backyard...unfortunately, the "other" side of a mega-ministry is the marketplace pressure that is put on small communities of faith in their neighborhoods. I talked to a ministry leader in Irvine the other day...he is leading a faithful missional ministry in a neighborhood...he has labored there in an attempt to shift some paradigms that will move "ekklesia" into the 21st century, postchristendom era. Unfortunately, Saddleback decided to do another of their satellite campuses right down the street from his "rented" facility. Saddleback has the money, publicity, and marketshare to kick the proverbial "a**" of any other presence in that area. Yes, it is about relationships....but when a church like Saddleback believes that "it" has the Kingdom goodies at the expense of what others are doing, I can only call it what it is - ecclesiastical bullying. I used to admire Saddleback...but if they would stay where they believe God has planted them and not take up a colonialistic mindset that hurts the broader Body of Christ because they can't compete in a consumeristically driven society/culture, then all I can say is "I'm jumping off the Saddleback bus"...Big churches, like big and powerful nations, only have a specific "shelf limit" in history...my question, when Saddleback's time in the spotlight is over, will WEstern Christianity really be better off? I don't think so!

Anyway, had to get that off my chest...despite all that, keep up the great ministry! I can't wait to read what you will be up to next.

In Jesus,
Dr. Robin Dugall
rdugall@apu.edu
www.faithcommunitiesproject.org

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